The Greatest Actors of All Time (if you’re a geek) (Part 2)

The moment you’ve been waiting for: the top four greatest actors (for geeks) of all time. My unimpeachable, scientifically accurate criteria for this decision (and rankings 5 – 11) are here in Part 1 of the article.

4: Sigourney Weavergreatest geeks - weaver

Well, here she is: Ripley, the toughest hombre to ever strap themselves into a power loader. Sigourney Weaver is the Queen of science fiction; she’s level-headed when the men around her go to water; the realist who knows when to nuke ‘em (answer: whenever you get the chance); she’s the original and the best tough woman of science fiction.

Long may she reign.

  1. The two good Alien films (1979, 1986)
  2. The two bad Alien films ( 1992, 1997)
  3. Ghostbusters 1&2 (1984, 1989)
  4. Galaxy Quest (1999)
  5. Avatar (2009)
  6. Chappie (2015)

Weaver has four classics on her resume (Aliens 1&2, Ghostbusters and Galaxy Quest). Plus has minor roles in the excellent greatest geeks - ripleyWALL-E and The Cabin in the Woods.

Sigourney did Galaxy Quest. She is obviously a geek.

Best line: “Get away from her you bitch.”

 

3: Harrison Ford

Harrison Ford is Han Solo, Indiana Jones and Rick Deckard.

Whether he likes it or not (and I suspect he doesn’t) genre movies are his natural home. Every time he’s strayed from the world of fantasy and science fiction, the results have sucked (with the exception of Witness). The genre loves him, even if he doesn’t love the genre.

He’s done it all: the franchise, the stand-alone classic (Blade Runner), he’s stood the test of time and he’s got enough movies on the list to endure high rotation in the endless days waiting on the blasted, unforgiving Marscape.

  1. Star Wars (1977)
  2. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
  3. greatest geeks deckardRaiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
  4. Blade Runner (1982)
  5. Return of the Jedi (1983)
  6. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)
  7. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
  8. What Lies Beneath (2000)
  9. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)
  10. Cowboys and Aliens (2011)
  11. Ender’s Game (2013)
  12. Star Wars: the Force Awakens (2015)

Harrison could well have taken out the #1 spot, but the supernatural elements in the Indiana Jones franchise are slight. Plus Harrison’s not a geek, just a grumpy old man.

Best line: Leia: “I love you.” Han: “I know.”

2: Arnold Schwarzeneggergreatest geeks recall

Here he is: the Big Papa of science fiction and fantasy, Arnold. Synonymous with two classic franchises: Conan the Barbarian and the Terminator, he is Conan and the T-800.

He’s done it all, from high fantasy, to science fiction noir, to a Stephen King adaptation, PKD film (Total Recall – based on the short story We Can Remember it for you Wholesale), to Comic Book adaptation, and post-apocalyptic. Arnold is the bulbous, scenery-chewing King of the supersized action sequence and the pithy one-liner.

  1. Conan the Barbarian (1982)
  2. Conan the Destroyer (1984)
  3. The Terminator (1984)
  4. Red Sonja (1985)
  5. Predator (1987)
  6. The Running Man (1987)
  7. Total Recall (1990)
  8. Terminator 2 (1991)
  9. Batman and Robin (1997)
  10. End of Days (1999)
  11. The 6th Day (2000)
  12. Terminator 3 (2003)
  13. Terminator Genisys (2015)

Thirteen on the playlist, a couple of bad ones, and five classics (Terminator 1&2, Conan 1, Predator, Total Recall). greatest geek conan

Not a geek. Also not really an actor.

Best Lines:

  1. “I’ll be back.”
  2. “Get to the chopper!”
  3. “Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women.”
  4. “See you at the party Richter!”
  5. “Consider that a divorce.”
  6. “Asta la vista, baby.”

1: Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart

Two actors? Isn’t that cheating? Well, yes, and I’ll tell you why: firstly these two are BFFs, joined at the hip, both in their movies and in life. Secondly, Arnold cheated, first by using steroids, and secondly on his wife.

There’s a price to pay for that Arnold, and the price is to be relegated into second place in an article you’ll never read by a writer you’ve never heard of. I’m sure Arnold will be able to console himself by rubbing hundred-dollar bills over his biceps and then using those bills to light a fat stogie.

As for Ian and Patrick – I love these guys. Witty and warm, charming and funny. Shakespearean-trained actors who lend greatest geeks ian and patrick pubgravitas some of the most important characters in science fiction and fantasy: Captain Jean-Luc Picard, Gandalf the Grey, Magneto, and Professor X.

Check out this for film night on Mars:

  1. Dune (1984)
  2. Star Trek (four movies) (1994 – 2002)
  3. X-Men (four movies) (2000 – 2014)
  4. Lord of the Rings (three movies) (2001 – 2003)
  5. The Hobbit (three terrible movies) (2012 – 2014)
  6. Stardust (2007)
  7. The Golden Compass (2007)

Are the 17 movies shared by these two enough to top Arnold? It’s true that many of the films are terrible (the three Hobbit films, one of the X-Men films, and one of the Star Trek films). But it is also true that if there’s one good thing in the worst of these films, that one good thing will either be Stewart or McKellen.greatest geeks magneto x

And we now this for damn sure: these two are giant geeks.

“Make it so.”

“You shall not pass!”

Conclusion

Ian and Patrick wouldn’t be my choice for Mars. As much as I love the duo, I’d go Harrison Ford. Blade Runner is my favourite film of all time, the three original Star Wars are classics and Indiana Jones is a lot of fun (except for the last, which is an embarrassment).

Arnold would be my second choice as it’d given me a Verhoeven (Total Recall); the second-best science fiction noir film of all time (Terminator); the third-best sci-fi action movie of all time (Predator); and the most brutal Barbarian in cinematic history.

Who would you pick? As this is a scientifically accurate list, your opinion is largely irrelevant, so you should go ahead and keep it to yourself.

Highly commended

Leonard Nimoy: I dearly wanted to include Spock in the top 11, but he’s really only a one-franchise man. Outside the seven greatest geeks - ian, patrick and spockStar Trek films he was in, you only get Invasion of the Body Snatchers on your Mars list – a great film, but not enough. Pros: Most influential geek of all time. Cons: None.

Samuel L Jackson: Also very nearly made the top 11. But on closer inspection, his three Star Wars appearances were in the terrible I – III. Unbreakable, Sphere, The Spirit were all shit and his role in The Avengers is small. Pros: Bad Mother Fucker.

greatest geeks jenniferJennifer Connelly:  The Labyrinth; Dark City; Rocketeer; Hulk; The Day the Earth Stood Still; Noah. Pros: she’s perfect. Cons: didn’t marry me.

Scarlett Johansson: The Island; Iron Man 2; Captain America: Winter Soldier; The Avengers 1&2; Under the Skin; Her; Lucy. Scarlett comes very close to making the top 11, but her Black Widow role is a minor one. Pros: appeared in movie with Bill Murray. Cons: Seeing her onscreen would be a constant reminder of how lonely Mars is.

Winona Rider:Edward Scissorhands; Alien: Resurrection; A Scanner Darkly; Star Trek. Pros: Spock’s mum.  Gen-X icon. Cons: Too much petty theft.

Mel Gibson: Mad Max 1 – 3; Signs: Pros – Mad Max 2 is an Australian classic and possibly the best post-apocalyptic film of of all time (though Fury Road may now hold that title). Cons: Anti-Semite, douchebag, not actually Australian.

greatest geeks uhuraZoe Saldana: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl; Star Trek; Avatar; Guardians of the Galaxy. Pros: Uhura. Cons: That stupid pirate movie

Hugh Jackman: X-Men (7 movies); Van Helsing; The Prestige; Real Steel. Pros: Australian, good bloke. Cons: Too many bad films.

Kate Beckinsale: Underworld 1 – 4; Van Helsing; Total Recall Reboot; Pros: Leather-clad kickarse vampire. Cons: Abysmal and unnecessary Total Recall reboot.

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2 thoughts on “The Greatest Actors of All Time (if you’re a geek) (Part 2)

  1. WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN A CAFÉ SOON – Rob Corrigan

    Firstly, what a great idea for a discussion – as a self-confessed nerd (rather than a geek) I could sit and talk with anyone at length on this topic… and I look forward to doing so soon.

    Second, whilst I think Tim’s listed criteria are superb for establishing the films to keep one going through (a very isolated) 3-year wait for rescue, I feel the resultant list of actors is a bit off.

    There is NO Will Smith.

    He clearly fits the criteria, despite three Michael Bay films (with Bad Boys 3 now on its way).

    He totally OWNED the role of the wise-cracking “Agent J” in all three Men In Black movies.

    Many may disagree, but I believe that either Independence Day OR I Am Legend should CURRENTLY be considered one-off classics (even though there will be an Indepedence Day sequel, Will Smith is too expensive to be in it).

    Is synonymous with the following characters: Agent J, Hancock, Capt James West.

    His resume includes some of the biggest block-buster money earners prior to the current money-spinning Avatar / Avengers period in Hollywood (see list below).

    He has range, including sci-fi, steampunk, super-heroes and horror (then of course outside of the genre there are his dramas, comedies and action-flicks).

    According to an interview with Wired magazine in 2004 about I, Robot, he said “What I love about I, Robot is how the concept of “human logic” is an oxymoron”. In addition to this, he admitted not going to MIT (despite their recruiting him) because instead he wanted to rap. In retrospect he described Computer Engineering would have been the path for him had he not picked up a microphone and become the Fresh Prince.

    Whilst he hasn’t yet been in a PKD movie, he WAS in an Isaac Asimov adaptation.

    I think this is a pretty good list to pass some time, and don’t forget you can currently add two Bad Boys movies, Hitch, Ali, Focus, Seven Pounds and the very underrated Six Degrees of Separation.

    Yes, whilst we can all agree that After Earth was the most blatant example of Hollywood nepotism EVER, you’ve got to give him kudos for having so much pull in the game to make it happen in the first place.

    Independence Day (1996)
    Men in Black (1997)
    Enemy of the State (1998)
    Wild, Wild West (1999)
    Men In Black II (2002)
    I, Robot (2004)
    I Am Legend (2007)
    Hancock (2008)
    Men In Black 3 (2012)
    After Earth (2013)
    Winter’s Tale (2014)

    I am very excited to see his contribution to Suicide Squad when it comes out in 2016 – the cast for that is a real mixed bag, just like the characters.

    Lastly about Smith, when asked about turning down the role of Neo in The Matrix (instead he made a bunch of money wearing six-shooters, kissing Salma Hayek and destroying Kenneth Branagh’s giant mechanical spider), Smith outlined the pitch didn’t initially grab him. He confessed Keanu was the better choice, saying “I watched Keanu’s performance… I would have messed it up”, and added “at that point I wasn’t smart enough as an actor to let the movie be”. (Hillner, J. I, Robocop. Wired magazine 12.07, July 2004). That’s just plain cool.

    As much as I love Arnold, he could be bumped down in order to push Sigourney Weaver higher up the list.

    Not only is she Ripley, the greatest sci-fi heroine, AND “slept four feet above her covers” in Ghostbusters, there are other reasons. She was more than outstanding in Galaxy Quest; “Why is this here?” is one of my favourite scenes, she is clearly not averse to poking fun at herself in the roles she accepts.

    I am glad Tim mentioned Cabin in the Woods – if you haven’t seen it, do it. But you forgot to mention Paul, the 2011 buddy comedy in which two British geeks drive encounter an escaped alien and drive him across the US. Weaver plays the bad guy (the character’s name is actually “the Big Guy”), and in a tense moment someone actually says to her “Get away from you bitch!”.

    I also believe there are others that could have been included for honourable mentions, such as

    – Matt Damon (the Bourne movies, Elysium, Interstellar, Dogma, plus The Adjustment Bureau the adaptation of PKD’s Adjustment Team)
    – Sam Neill (Jurassic Park 1 & 3, Event Horizon, Bicentennial Man, Daybreakers)
    – James Earl Jones (c’mon he was the voice of Darth Vader, Mufasa plus appeared in Dr. Strangelove, Exorcist II, Conan the Barbarian, Field of Dreams, and even Judge Dredd)

    And don’t get me started on the second tier supporting actors/actresses… Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton, Michael Ironside, Dwayne Johnson… the list goes on and on.

    1. That Will Smith chose the abysmal Wild Wild West over The Matrix tells you everything you need to know. And if you think I Am Legend is a classic you need to give yourself an uppercut and assess what has become of your movie-going life.

      It’s not that Will Smith is a one-note actor that makes terrible films. It’s not that he hasn’t done anything worthwhile since 1996. It’s that his films are so bad they undermine the genre as a whole (exhibit A: After Earth).

      Michael Biehn is cool.

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